Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) declined to declare on Wednesday that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election was “not stolen.”
Chairman James McGovern (D-MA) highlighted at a House Rules Committee hearing that Jordan first declined to declare “the election was not stolen” when he came before the committee earlier this year.
“Can you say those five words today?” McGovern asked Jordan.
“I’ll give you the same answer,” Jordan replied. “I never said it was. I said we should investigate it. I said on January 6th when the electoral votes were counted that Joe Biden is the president of the United States.”
McGovern attempted to speak, but Jordan interrupted him.
“The real question is why don’t you guys want to investigate what happened?” Jordan screamed.
“You’re still unwilling to say those five simple words,” McGovern noted. “I think that’s incredibly important. You know, pushing debunked conspiracy theories and adding fuel to the fire.”
“I’m not pushing any conspiracy theories!” Jordan objected. “Your obsession with five words seems pretty ridiculous to me.”
“I’m not trying to whitewash anything,” the Ohio Republican later insisted. “Republicans have been consistent. We have condemned violence every stinking time it happened. We condemned it on January 6th. And 600 people are being prosecuted and held accountable for what they did wrong as well they should be.”
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Jordan went on to blame Democrats of failing to denounce the violence that followed George Floyd’s death in 2020.
“I am so sick of the double standard!” he exclaimed.
“I condemn violence where it may occur,” McGovern pointed out. “You can yell and scream as much as you want.”
“No, I’m not yelling and screaming,” Jordan interrupted. “I’m reflecting where the American people are. They’ve had it with the double standard. You’re allowed to object; we’re not!”
“You can object,” McGovern replied. “The issue is what transpired that day.”
“We had nothing to do with that!” Jordan gasped.
“We’ll see,” McGovern replied. “But after all this time, still, you cannot say those five words that the election was not stolen.”
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) was questioned on Wednesday at a House Rules Committee hearing as he argued against referring Steve Bannon to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution after the Trump ally failed to comply with a congressional subpoena.
“Do you accept that Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election? Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD) asked.
“I accept that Joe Biden is the president,” Gaetz replied.
“Do you accept that Joe Biden won the election by over seven million votes and defeated Donald Trump by 306 to 232 in the Electoral College? A margin that Donald Trump called a landslide when he beat Hillary Clinton by the same numbers,” Raskin said.
Gaetz, on the other hand, refused to recognize Biden’s validity and also declined to provide any proof to back up his allegations.
“You know what, that might work on Steve Bannon’s podcast, but that’s not going to work in the Rules Committee of the United States House of Representatives,” Raskin said.
Raskin mocks Gaetz in the exchange saying, “Blah blah blah.”
A corrupt former Florida tax official and one-time “wingman” to Rep. Matt Gaetz was granted more time on Monday to assist with federal prosecutors in their probe of the congressman and a slew of other scandals.
Joel Greenberg was scheduled to be sentenced on Nov. 18 for six crimes to which he pleaded guilty earlier this year, but prosecutors successfully petitioned U.S. District Judge Gregory Presnell to postpone the sentencing until March so that they could follow up on all of the leads Greenberg provided to investigators.
“Mr. Greenberg was a prolific criminal,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Roger Handberg said in open court.
“Mr. Greenberg was not alone. This is an unusual situation in the number of different investigations and lines of investigation we are pursuing,” Handberg said, adding that the extra time was required “because of the need to follow up on some of these leads.”
The greatest prize for federal prosecutors is Gaetz, who was not named in court on Monday and is being investigated on suspicion of paying to have sex with a 17-year-old girl brought to him by Greenberg in 2017.
The investigation against Gaetz has been ongoing since November, and it was made public this spring amid expectations of an impending indictment for the congressman, which never materialized. The March sentencing date for Greenberg, the former Seminole County tax collector, establishes a new timetable for when Gaetz could be prosecuted, if at all.
Trump’s role in organizing, encouraging, and supporting rioters’ goals of preventing Congress from recognizing Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election is well-known, but some are hoping to find additional evidence of his behavior that day that could potentially shed more light on his knowledge of the events and his culpability in any crimes or wrongdoing.
Republican Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, a close ally of the former president, has already admitted to speaking with Trump on the day of the attack. However, he has strained to avoid directly answering questions about the topic, implying that he has something to hide about the conversation. He has refused to reveal any details about the conversation’s content or when it occurred.
According to a new report by Tara Palmeri, Jordan had multiple conversations with Trump throughout the day.
We know that DONALD TRUMP and Rep. JIM JORDAN spoke once on the day of the Capitol riot, but the Ohio Republican has said he doesn’t remember when their conversation took place. We have some new details that could help clear up that timeframe — including confirmation of at least one more phone conversation between Jordan and the then-president during the siege.
After a group of lawmakers were evacuated from the House chamber to a safe room on Jan. 6, Jordan was joined by Rep. MATT GAETZ (R-Fla.) for a call during which they implored Trump to tell his supporters to stand down, per a source with knowledge of that call. The source declined to say how Trump responded to this request.
Jordan, when asked about whether Gaetz participated, said he’d “have to think about it,” citing many conversations he had during the frenetic attack. He also said phone calls to Trump happened more than once on that deadly day.
“Look, I definitely spoke to the president that day. I don’t recall — I know it was more than once, I just don’t recall the times,” Jordan told our Olivia Beavers. He later said that “I’m sure” one of the Trump-involved calls took place in the safe room “because we were in that room forever.” (For safety reasons, we are not disclosing the specific room where members were evacuated to, but that is the room Jordan is referencing.) Jordan would not get into the specifics of what he discussed with the president, though he said that like everyone, he wanted the National Guard to get involved.
Jordan doesn’t appear to be interested in recalling or sharing these details.